Tuesday, March 16, 2010

HPW: US Envoy Puts Mideast Trip on Hold

The diplomatic snafu between Israel and the United States soldiers on, and the Huffington Post is there to make Israel look as bad as possible. George Mitchell, the US peace-making miracle worker, has decided not to go to Israel until this current tension is abated. The article, as with the Clinton, Biden, and apology threads before it, generated hundreds of comments. After this past week, there is no longer any doubt in my mind that there are bonafide anti-Semites on the HP, but they usually keep their heads down. On threads like these, though, they crawl out of the woodwork. Even more disturbing were the people who really were only criticizing Israel but who stalwartly defended anyone accused of anti-Semitism, even those who deserve it. It makes me think of those zombietime.com pictures of Berkeley hippies marching alongside Hamas supporters. Crazy.



DanGooding2011
Actually the facts about the total atrocities committed in Gaza are never aired in the USA.
They were shown in REAL Time on Al-Jazeera English.
I think you know who controls ALL USA media .


DanGooding2011
Read the Talmud
If ever there was a more racist, vile disgusted book .....its pathetic.
If any other country had done what Izzrael is doing, the USA would have attacked them years ago.



American Jews comprise 2% of the American population...and yet, they comprise 25% of the MSM. If this does not raise red flags, then I don't know what would.

muck-raker
Austintatious...What Israel did to Gaza showed the World how callous Israel is to kxlling unarmed civilians. The Goldstone report points this out in detail....The World remembers the Israeli massaquer in Jenin and wonders when this rabid mad dog will stop.



Suporting israel and their agenda is like supporting racism, they are building housing for "jews" not for "people"...

Great standpoint for the nation of USA. Try explaining this in the historybooks for your children.

Anyone in Congress who backs this pariah State needs to go to jail for treason.

I find it very enlightening to discover that you can criticize any American president. I can come on here and I can criticize Bush, and I can criticize Obama and I do not have to be particularly respectful while doing so. But baby, you better have nothing but nice things to say about rightwingnut Netanyahu, or you will be censored

Let's recap: In America, you are free to criticize any United States President or Vice President. But you better kiss up to the Israeli Prime Minister.

There's a problem here.

I'm willing to bet that my comments don't get posted quickly enough to be posted on the first page. Would anyone care to guess the thrust of my comments?



I wonder in the minds of the current Israeli government, does president Obama's race has anything to do with the utter disrespect that they have shown him? I hope that he puts the right amount of pressure to stop Israel from grabbing all of Palestinian ancestral lands! There will be no peace as long as this current Israeli gov is in power! Why should they? Since they possess weapons and military advantage to go in Gaza or any place where Palestinians reside bomb them and do what they will! If their military budget is stopped or curtailed, this would make them vulnerable to Hezbollah, who they want to attack. This includes Iran too! Their are those that say the Palestinians have no right to throw rocks at invaders and genocidal troops bent on taking their land and assaulting them at free will. What would those who echo this do in similar situation?If there will be no peace and it is assured that Israel will create a humanitarian crisis of mega portions if their killing sprees continue and they attack Iran!

Remember the USS Liberty! 


Time to start doing a little sniper work and take out Jews where they sleep. anywhere in the world

I suggest AIPAC members start wearing a bullet proof vest.

Depends on how much military intervention you want to wipe out the Arabs. I suppose a neo every thing. Christofascist might be a term to describe you.




Keep the pressure BO, we are behind you. More and more Americans even American Jews are tired of this one sided policy which will never result in peace. We need to push the Israelis harder. I'm convinced this incident was intentional and that they wanted indeed to test how far they can own the US government. They miscalculated... maybe Bush wouldn't have done a thing but BO is no Bush and will not let this go easily.
The US government via Wall St is own by Israel. Check out the story on the Rosthchild family.... the most powerful banking family which star is on Israel's flag. They are partially responsible for the Federal Reserves Act of 1913. It's time people to wake up... Money talk.

Of course they will.

They will have to live under Palestinian law, and realize that they can no longer beat and throw stones at Palestinians with no consequences though. And that is the part they don't like. Equality. After all Jews in East Jerusalem are used to getting away with everything.

"A bipartisan parade of influential U.S. lawmakers and interest groups has taken aim at the administration's decision to publicly condemn Israel."
Bought and paid for by Jewish lobbies.
When the POTUS is expected to kowtow to a tiny country that has just spit in its face... A country to which it provides over $3 billion/yr in direct aid and exponentially higher amounts in indirect aid. A country that is able to continue its oppression of another people unabated only through the support of the US. When that country blatant slaps it's benefactor in the face during a visit from the VPOTUS to their country and it immediately becomes the sin which dare not be criticized aloud; there's something incredibly wrong with our political system.

It is unfortunate to see the rioting in occupied Palestine. These protestors will be killed, or brutally beaten back or captured and tortured. The Palestinians face overwhelming force that they can not resist, and their hands will be burned off in the fire. Israel has lost it's moral compass. People in the US who blindly support Israel ignore the brutality and injustice. There are more critics of Israeli policy in Israel than there are in the elite circles in the United States. The fundamental problem in the US is press censorship of Middle East coverage. Anyone who saw the children in Gaza having their skin burned with phospher bombs would not tolerate this continued policy.
Israel has won the battles time and time again and will continue to do so. The only question is how brutal and heartless it will be and how much further it will grind the Palestineans into the dirt and strip away even a pretense of human dignity.

While over much of the same period Jews could live peacefully under Muslim rule. Great way to remember your friends Israel! America should look at how Israel repays kindness.




alysheba 3
You should be disturbed that a group of people, based on their religion, thought it was okay to steal homes and farms from people.



Didnt you know that it is OK to commit atrocities if you wear an IDF uniform?

The dual citizenship between Israel and the USA must be abolished. The people who have Israeli citizenship as well as US citizenship, their Israeli citizenship must be revoked if they choose to live in this country else they must leave USA and go to Israel. Be faithful to one country and serve honestly for it.
Rachel Corrie two days before being crushed to death by an Israeli bulldozer:
http://www.commondreams.org/video/2010/03/15-0

Please stop whining. Why is it the jews are always saying, "stop picking on us, or everyone is always picking on us" Well maybe if you werent so greedy and didnt have a hand in starting pretty much every conflict in the modern world people wouldnt be bashing them. I mean there are a lot of other cultures and races out there that had it a lot worse then the jews yet when they are in trouble or being picked on the ENTIRE WORLD must stop for them....please...They day my people see the US emptied and given to us as a state and place where the TRUE OWNERS belong is the day I care about the jews.

How many Jewish advisors to the president were in Bush's administration, encouraging him to wage war against the Muslims? Let's see...there was Wolfowitz (the architect of the Iraq invasion), Libby, Perle, Feith, and Pofhoretz (the "Father of Noeconservatism," who also tried to persuade Bush to attack Iran). They far outnumbered their representation in our population, and their undue influence regarding waging warfare against Muslim countries is well-known throughout the Islamic world.

Unfortunatly its not the same, if everyone in the US were compelled to serve in the military we would easily just refuse to ship out and the conflict would be over. They [American Jews] must serve in the military and if they had a problem would simply get their units together and remove the prime minister and anyone supporting him. Dont blame your problems on others as it makes you look worthless, you can always act and work towards solving whatever they may be.

As long as criticism of Israel is called anti semetism, the jews themself have defined theirselves as one with the Israeli government. If you want to seperate yourself from being tied to Irael the criticising Israel is NOT anti sematism

Please stop whining. Why is it the jews are always saying, "stop picking on us, or everyone is always picking on us" Well maybe if you werent so greedy and didnt have a hand in starting pretty much every conflict in the modern world people wouldnt be bashing them. I mean there are a lot of other cultures and races out there that had it a lot worse then the jews yet when they are in trouble or being picked on the ENTIRE WORLD must stop for them....please...They day my people see the US emptied and given to us as a state and place where the TRUE OWNERS belong is the day I care about the jews.

Why is it that when anyone lays blame on Israel for any of it's actions it is considered anti-semitic. Yet the same critisim is often read in left-leaning Israeli newspapers such as Haaretz.

Are they Anti-Semitic also? The charge of Anti-Semitism is too often used as tool to silence valid critism. It is a form of reverse racism that when taken to extremes even maligns the reputation of a well respected Jurist such as Lord Goldsmith. The fact that he is himself Jewish shows the lunacy of rebutting any uncomfortable critism with the retort of "Anti-Semitism" (or in his case self-hating Jew).

President Truman really didn't want to recognize Israel. Only after multiple visits to the White House by his old Jewish army buddy and former business partner Eddie Jacobson (along with Jewish rabbis), who all twisted Truman's arm, did he finally relent and agree to support Israel. Therefore, this undue inside influence on our leaders by American Zionist Jews and their respective organizations have kept America entangled in this Middle East mess for over 60 years now, costing us dearly. We have spent $trillions, in aid to Israel and in warfare against Islamic countries (who hate us because of our slanted support for Israel), and we have lost thousands of American lives through Islamo-warfare and terrorism. If we don't put a stop to this madness, it will surely destroy our country.

In retrospect, supporting the creation the nation of Israel was one of the biggest mistakes the US ever made. What business did we have in supporting the creation of a nation dedicated to the proposition that god "promised" them the land in the Middle East? We are a secular nation dedicated to freedom of religion and diversity, both principles anathema to the Israeli nation. God didn't promise anybody anything--it is one of the twisted notions that supports the exceptionalism that feeds Israeli arrogance and it could not continue were it not for the US single handedly supporting the continuation of Israel's existence. If we pulled out, they would disappear in a fairly short period of time, and then Jewish people could take their places along all other people in nations around the world. And this is not an anti-Jewish position--it is an anti Israel position. As long as we so disproportionately support the nation of Israel, we will be saddled with troubles in the Middle East and around the world.




June 8, 1967 ring any bells...

USS Liberty

JanPoore,

Some of the comments are distrubing on here. We need to blame the current Israeli government, but also the voters who continue to vote these dangerous leaders into office.

I grew up in a Midwestern town where the word "pushy" had a specific meaning and application. Did not understand why it was used until I grew up and had some experiences that explained it.

Everyone talks about terrorism and it being a huge threat to the US. But who used terrorism in 1946 to get the British and the United Nations a homeland? Hamas, the Palestinians, since 1947, have watched for years as their people have become nothing but pawns in Israeli zionist expansion. Does anyone really wonder why they throw bombs and use suicide attacks?
[revisionist history]

Razz

We are not allowed to disagree with the Jews in any thing, because they are the chosen people. It is their right to do whatever they please.

[response]
Read Deuteronomy and Joshua for a chilling account.

simple - Jewish editors on HP, let through anything that makes Americans sympathetic to them but of course not anything that would make people sympathetic to anyone else.





I agree that it was a [anti-Semitic] despicable comment. And i find it sad that Israel's policies and collective punishment towards the Palestinians are once again breeding this kind of thinking.
It is the job of thinking people not to be on the side of the executioners.
~Albert Camus
No matter what color, nationality or religion those executioners are, even Israeli...

To be a Palestinian in the West Bank is getting to be more and more like being a Jew in Nazy Germany. America destests racial discrimination and Apartheid, so why are we subsidizing such national policies of Israel ? It is inexplicable.

KaPi
As ususal, you seem to think normal rules don't apply to Israel...just change them to your liking and your preference. Whether they be rules of decency, respect, international law, ally and friend relationships, or in this case, the simple definition of a word. You can't deprive a people of their name or grouping just because you'd rather it not apply to them. Sounds a lot like land doesn't it.

If anything, the word is loosely intepreted that way now because too many Jewish people yell "anti-semitism" at the top of their lungs at the slightest hint of criticism of Israel...no matter how legitimate the criticism may be.

Israel is an apartheid state, whose brutality toward the Palestinian people and theft of their lands has been persistent since before the establishment of the Israeli state. The US needs to reduce its support for the sake of peace and the lives of our troops... Without actual and serious pressure, Israel will not consider US interests in the slightest, as history has proven.. google the USS Liberty and Israeli spying among other assaults

"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford University Press, 1985.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."

-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.
[made up quotes]

Excellent! YES follow the money.... Money talks!!!
Learn about the Rothschild family and who sponsored so many infrastructure projects in israel. Even the star on the flag come from the Rothschild...

People might be concerned the extent of Israeli influence and infiltration of the State Department and the Pentagon as well as many other organizations in Washington. The irony is that Likud does not represent the opinion of the vast majority of Jews in the U.s. Likud is fanatical and far right and AIPAC is their mouthpiece but AIPAC is decisioned and led by less than 20 very,very rich Jewish American billionaires who are fanatics. AIPAC has a body of 100,000 members and they go along with whatever is decided at the top but this body is not representative of the huge majority of American Jewry. Follow the money and that is where you get all this nonsense, the posturing, the use of terror and intimidation and the constant strutting and preening.

The saddest reality is that those in power now are mirroring the exact same psychological posture of their Nazi tormentors from 2 generations ago. This is so often the case. The oppressed become the new oppressors within 1 generation in reaction to their own massive humiliation and fear.

Yes Israel is rogue and no one is safe unless you are a Jew.

The meaning of the word “anti-Semite” has evolved into a new meaning. In the past it meant “someone who hated Jews” but in the last few years the meaning has changed and now actually means “someone who Jews hate”.

That's never going to happen.
We even have a Senator from CT that has dual citizenship but whose loyalty lies unquestionably with Israel.

w00pecker5
Then let's get rid of that country and return it to the Palestinians.




It's not only that the Israel lobby buys off politicians that can explain this blind loyalty to Israel. It has something to do with ownership of the MSM buy pro-Israel entities.

FairuzGhowar
Tel Aviv is the capital not Jerusalem and East Jerusalem is considered occupied by the entire world.

Also they are confiscating homes and throwing the natives out not buying them

I think the time has come to teach people the real meaning of the word SEMITE. Majority of the people have been "miseducated" as to what the word means. For those interested: Arabs are Semites too, yes the Palestinians are Semites. So now, who are anti-Semites?


The USS Liberty incident killed about 37 of our unarmed sailors and injured 60+ more. It was completely covered up.

Not trying to downplay the Corrie incident, but if our gov'ts can collude to cover up such a massacre, I won't hold my breath for any justice for Corrie. RIP.

Israel is not the problem. The nihilistic, racist and myopic policies of the hawkish right are. The shame in this country is that American Jewry seems to be explicitly onboard and forcibly blackmailing the Administration to comply. Again, the NYT’s timing of some stories aimed at hurting the President are clear indicators of AIPAC’s power. 

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