1) How can you separate Zionism from Israel? Every Israeli who feels that Israel should be a Jewish state is a Zionist, therefore any government could be called a "regime." Just because the Ayatollah doesn't say the word "Israel" some take it to mean he doesn't mean Israel, the Jewish state. Well, what does he mean?
2) If you look at the Hamas charter, they don't say that they are going to be the ones to destroy Israel either. They just say that "Islam" will eventually destroy Israel. And yet, as soon as Hamas got the chance, they attacked Israel, intending to do their best to destroy it. They have continued ever since. The double talk has been used before, it's not going to fool me again.
It's also interesting to note that quite a few of the posters who are virulently anti-Israel now come out in this thread to defend Iran and it's leadership, most notably "Richard Pearce," "hemara" and "Rachel Brownlee." You can check out the thread and see for yourself.
Before I get to the comments on the fully moderated, though, I felt I needed to share this one. It was addressed to a new poster who made a pro-Israel comment:
dem 01And then we had this follow-up:
Excpet the US of A you do not have any friend !
... and you know what ...
The empire is dying.... and you know what...
The Ar...abs are going to eat you alive.
Rachel Brownlee
...with fries!
Here's a screencap in case it gets deleted:
This is pretty sick stuff, even for the Huffington Post. But of course, this is just legitimate criticism of Israel, right?
S1m0n
Khameni predicted the end of Zionism, not of Israel.
And he's undoubtedly correct: a national raison d'etre founded on race in a land with a pluralistic population is incurably unstable, and cannot last. However, Khameni's own regime will be long gone before this comes to pass. He would be wise to hold off on the gloating.Richard Pearce
It was interesting to see how Israel tried to chekov the world's response (including the Muslim world's response) to the Haitian earthquake disaster (there have been several disasters in Haiti over the past few decades, more of them the result of the policies of foreing governments than natural disasters), and then claim it was the victim of hatred when people pushed back at that.
[I think he's saying here that Israel is trying to stifle news about other nations helping Haiti. But if you read the Haiti threads, you will see that the AZs there were far from "pushing back."]
Rachel Brownlee
jabidi
[I think he's saying here that Israel is trying to stifle news about other nations helping Haiti. But if you read the Haiti threads, you will see that the AZs there were far from "pushing back."]
Rachel Brownlee
Israel cannot continue to antaganise it neighbours without reaping a savage harvest.
This doesn't mean Israels dissolution it just means peaceful concessions within international law.jabidi
Right out of Israeli Global Language Handbook:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/206021
http://www.newsweek.com/id/206021
Freenation
parsi try reading this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/09/israel-foreign-ministry-media
[Usual Freenation spam. If you read the thread, you'll see how *extremely* off topic it is.]http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jan/09/israel-foreign-ministry-media
Rachel Brownlee
But Israel is - yea right!
That you can so easily see problems in other countries and yet are so blind to those in your own is something that you should work on.I'll give you a hint - it's called 'objectivity'!
Of course, you won't get paid for it!
Rachel Brownlee
Kinda like Israel sending aid to Haiti while opening the floodgates of the dam above the Valley of Gaza and flooding the inhabitants. [In the subsequent thread, she was unable to back up this obvious lie. However, if you read the thread, notice other anti-Zionists who will believe it without question.]
Zanubiyah
It was the arrogance of the bigots of South Africa that destroyed apartied. It will be the arrogance of the Zionists that will destroy Israel...not Islam, not the Palistinians, and not Iran...but the ideology of Zionists. [His slip up: Failing to refer to Israel as "the Zionist regime," like the Ayatollah did. Notice the use of "Zionists"]
Zanubiyah
No matter who speaks the truth, it is the truth. Do not attack the man, for we all know who he is. The article is about what he said. It seems Zionists have a hard time refuting his words, so they attack his charater.
Zionists tend to do that. However, it gets to be a badge of honour after a while to be demeaned by Zionists, just as the bigots did in South Africa, now the man is a hero to his people, and to the world.It was the arrogance of the bigots of South Africa that destroyed apartied. It will be the arrogance of the Zionists that will destroy Israel...not Islam, not the Palistinians, and not Iran...but the ideology of Zionists. [His slip up: Failing to refer to Israel as "the Zionist regime," like the Ayatollah did. Notice the use of "Zionists"]
nyckid
Palestine belongs to the Palestinians.
RasKesar
[In response to, "What belongs to the Israelis?"]
Eastern Europe
Eastern Europe
jabidi
"Zionism for Dummies"
http://palestinechronicle.com/view_article_details.php?id=15406kentah
Stating that "only those who hate Israel and her people would agree with you" is a false declaration. Zionism as a concept has displaced so many, killed so many, taken the land and destroyed the culture of so many, that it will inevitably consume itself in its own paranoia. [Translation: Israel has no right to exist, and should it be destroyed, that would be a good thing.] There's a large contingent in not only Israel and the Jewish diaspora but non-Jews as well that believe pretty much that--the concept itself is not Judaism but uses Judaism as a carrier wave to function. Zionism is a form of nationalism based on religion and ethnicity spawned in Europe and transplanted to the Middle East.
hemara
"especially today."
Please, spare us the emotional blackmail.
Whatever lessons Israel learned from the holocaust weren't to do with human rights.
Please, spare us the emotional blackmail.
Whatever lessons Israel learned from the holocaust weren't to do with human rights.
hemara
I know Palestinians in the UAE working in white collar jobs.
The last time I checked it wasn't arabs or muslims refusing to recognise refugee rights, illegally occupying Palestinian land and acting "to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger", as Dov Weisglass so delicately described the open air prison that is Gaza.
Israel is the victor in the oppression stakes, overwhelming.
The last time I checked it wasn't arabs or muslims refusing to recognise refugee rights, illegally occupying Palestinian land and acting "to put the Palestinians on a diet, but not to make them die of hunger", as Dov Weisglass so delicately described the open air prison that is Gaza.
Israel is the victor in the oppression stakes, overwhelming.
hemara
In the interests of fairness you will include the Knesset and IDF for good measure [in a list of terrorists include Hamas, Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad]? In the name of maintaining an illegal occupation, they manage to outclass Hamas et al in the killing of civilians several times over.
kentah
Exactly. How many of these al qaeda end up being Mossad, CIA, or affiliated somehow with the ADL? How many documents have been forged supposedly speaking to nefarious Iranian secret plans at world domination or whatever they're claiming? 2 tons of explosives went missing from a company in Vancouver the other day, two guesses on where and how it'll turn up and who will be blamed, actually one guess.
